Commiting Fraud to recieve Federal Grants

If you are in Texas, contact the U.S. Department of Education's Office
of Inspector General at: 214-880-3019. It is their job to investigate
the fraud, waste and abuse within the Department of Education's programs.

Never_give_up wrote:
> I know someone who is lying on her FAFSA to receive federal grants and
> subsidized loans. Here is the situation:
>
> Her parents are divorced and she has been living with her father for
> the last 10 years while her mother has lived in a different town
> during that time. She lived at her fathers address, graduated from
> high school down the street from where they lived and he makes over
> 60k a year and he even claimed her on his income taxes. So this is
> what she does, she applies for college in the town where her mother
> lives and then fills out the FAFSA giving nothing but her mothers
> information and stating that her mother (who hasn't had a job or paid
> taxes in the last 12 years) as the one who provided care for her
> during the last year. In the mean time her father gave her a car, and
> set her up in a nice apartment in the town where her mother lives and
> pays all the bills and gives her a credit card, as well as paying for
> her tuition, books, and everything she may need. In the mean time she
> is receiving 4k a year in Federal Grants, 1600 a year in Texas Public
> Education grant for low income students, 3k in subsidized loans, and
> another 4k in work study benefits, and receives food stamps because
> under the rules in Texas for food stamps for students, a work study
> job will count since you only have to work 15 hours a week and its all
> tax free. The reason I know all this is because I'm marrying her
> sister. I personally went to the same college she is attending and I'm
> part of the Alumni there as well. I feel upset about the whole
> situation because I personally had to borrow 25k in unsubsidized
> student loans and work two jobs just to get through college. My
> parents made to much money but didn't have enough to send me to school
> so I had to do it all alone without the aid that the poor receives.
>
> Things I have done so far:
>
> I have contacted the Department of Education
> Had an interview with Director of Finical Aid
>
> And none of this seems to work because nothing has yet to happen. This
> is money that could go to someone who could really use it, and not
> some rich person cheating the system. Is there anything else I could
> do to stop this fraud? The Financial Aid Director told me there is
> nothing she could do because they are not allowed to check tax records
> and since when they do verification and ask for all tax records you
> can simply put zero on your FAFSA and turn in the form to Financial
> aid that stats "will not file" and that's it, you get the aid and get
> away with fraud. Even with someone like me trying to help the DOE and
> the finical aid catch this fraud by providing all SS#'s, copy of old
> Drivers Licenses and all the information they need to verify my story,
> this person still gets away with it. This just makes me sick!
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TabbyG0243 DeleteThis @hotmail.com (TabbyG) wrote in message news:<59edd793.0309172109.7d3e7069 DeleteThis @posting.google.com>...
> Sounds like you ought to be a welcome addition to the family. Does
> your fiancee (or your future in-laws) know that you are doing all
> this?
>
> How did you manage to get copies of driver's licenses and social
> security numbers without violating the privacy of these people? I am
> not sure exactly what you are hoping to gain, but I suspect this is
> going to backfire on you.



Well when you see someone commit a crime you don't stand there and let
it happen. You have to do your civic duty and do whats right. I'm the
kind of citizin that dials 911 when I see someone breaking a crime.
Even white colar crime such as this. I would turn in my own family
members if I saw them do wrong, thats just who I am. I know it seems
mean and heartless to turn in ones own family, but I believe I'm
making a difference in society ans society needs a few NARC's here and
there to help stop people such as this. Yours and my tax dollars are
going to waste and I'm going to speak up. I don't want to see federal
grant money to go to rich girls with no bills and uses it to party and
buy "pimp" gear. I want my tax dollars to go to the person that has
worked hard, and doesn't have anyone to turn to and still wants to
make something of themselves. Trust me if you saw what was going on,
you would probably feel inclined to tell the proper authorities about
this situation, regardless if you are marrying into the family or not.
And my soon fiancee agrees, I talked it over with her first before I
ever took the first step towards turning her sister in for what she is
doing, as well as talking to her sister and telling her what she is
doing is wrong. She doesn't care and she knows exactly what she is
doing so I had to take it to the next step. Trust me its not easy but
I'm still not afraid to do whats right.
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Never_give_up <jroden DeleteThis @satx.rr.com> wrote:
> I know someone who is lying on her FAFSA to receive federal grants and
> subsidized loans. Here is the situation:
>
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>
> The reason I know all this is because I'm marrying her
> sister.
>[...]
> Things I have done so far:
>
> I have contacted the Department of Education
> Had an interview with Director of Finical Aid
>[...]
> Even with someone like me trying to help the DOE and
> the finical aid catch this fraud by providing all SS#'s, copy of old
> Drivers Licenses and all the information they need to verify my story,
> this person still gets away with it. This just makes me sick!

At least it will make your future family life far more interesting.

Marc
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It was my understanding that a school could choose to verify any FAFSA
that they chose, and if they were to suspect fraud, they could choose to
ask for the tax records to verify the student's application.

Did you call the 1-800-Mis-used number to report this?

Never-give-up wrote:

I know someone who is lying on her FAFSA to receive federal grants and
subsidized loans. Here is the situation:
Her parents are divorced and she has been living with her father for the
last 10 years while her mother has lived in a different town during that
time. She lived at her fathers address, graduated from high school down
the street from where they lived and he makes over 60k a year and he
even claimed her on his income taxes. So this is what she does, she
applies for college in the town where her mother lives and then fills
out the FAFSA giving nothing but her mothers information and stating
that her mother (who hasn't had a job or paid taxes in the last 12
years) as the one who provided care for her during the last year. In the
mean time her father gave her a car, and set her up in a nice apartment
in the town where her mother lives and pays all the bills and gives her
a credit card, as well as paying for her tuition, books, and everything
she may need. In the mean time she is receiving 4k a year in Federal
Grants, 1600 a year in Texas Public Education grant for low income
students, 3k in subsidized loans, and another 4k in work study benefits,
and receives food stamps because under the rules in Texas for food
stamps for students, a work study job will count since you only have to
work 15 hours a week and its all tax free. The reason I know all this is
because I'm marrying her sister. I personally went to the same college
she is attending and I'm part of the Alumni there as well. I feel upset
about the whole situation because I personally had to borrow 25k in
unsubsidized student loans and work two jobs just to get through
college. My parents made to much money but didn't have enough to send me
to school so I had to do it all alone without the aid that the poor
receives.
Things I have done so far:
I have contacted the Department of Education Had an interview with
Director of Finical Aid
And none of this seems to work because nothing has yet to happen. This
is money that could go to someone who could really use it, and not some
rich person cheating the system. Is there anything else I could do to
stop this fraud? The Financial Aid Director told me there is nothing she
could do because they are not allowed to check tax records and since
when they do verification and ask for all tax records you can simply put
zero on your FAFSA and turn in the form to Financial aid that stats
"will not file" and that's it, you get the aid and get away with fraud.
Even with someone like me trying to help the DOE and the finical aid
catch this fraud by providing all SS#'s, copy of old Drivers Licenses
and all the information they need to verify my story, this person still
gets away with it. This just makes me sick!
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berchey RemoveThis @webtv.net wrote in message news:<26138-3F710810-84 RemoveThis @bsg-storefull-2112.public.lawson.webtv.net>...
> It was my understanding that a school could choose to verify any FAFSA
> that they chose, and if they were to suspect fraud, they could choose to
> ask for the tax records to verify the student's application.
>


They can only ask the student to give them there parents tax papers,
but they can not call up the IRS and get the info from them directly.
See what she is doing, is only using her mothers info and her mother
hasn't had a job in twelve years. So when they do the verfication, she
simply fills out a verfication form and check mark the box that says
"will not file". And thats it. The school doesn't have the means to
check every person who fills out the form and says "will not file".
And the DOE only does random investigations or when they get a lead
about abuse or something looks fishy.
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Yo, mind your own business,or screw your own relatives, sounds like someone
has a enchanting view of the world., and to much time on their
hands............hhmmmmmm.......
"Never_give_up" <jroden.TakeThisOut@satx.rr.com> wrote in message
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> berchey.TakeThisOut@webtv.net wrote in message
news:<26138-3F710810-84.TakeThisOut@bsg-storefull-2112.public.lawson.webtv.net>...
> > It was my understanding that a school could choose to verify any FAFSA
> > that they chose, and if they were to suspect fraud, they could choose to
> > ask for the tax records to verify the student's application.
> >
>
>
> They can only ask the student to give them there parents tax papers,
> but they can not call up the IRS and get the info from them directly.
> See what she is doing, is only using her mothers info and her mother
> hasn't had a job in twelve years. So when they do the verfication, she
> simply fills out a verfication form and check mark the box that says
> "will not file". And thats it. The school doesn't have the means to
> check every person who fills out the form and says "will not file".
> And the DOE only does random investigations or when they get a lead
> about abuse or something looks fishy.
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