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Since: Dec 02, 2003 Posts: 6
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 3:18 pm
Post subject: Deferred Enrollment? Archived from groups: soc>college>admissions (more info?)
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I'm hoping to find some advice from this group regarding
deferred enrollment. I've been reading sca for years, but
haven't posted until now...
Son #1 is now a high-school senior and is in the process of applying
to highly selective colleges. His stats are solid: 2nd in his class of
450, at a school where seniors commonly are accepted to the most
selective colleges and with 10-15 National Merit Finalists each year,
1590 SATI in one sitting, mid- to high-700's SATII's, 4's & 5's on seven
AP exams taken as a freshman and sophomore, 13 college classes at the
neighboring Big State U, including a few courses cross-listed at the
graduate level (he's had one A- and the rest A's; next semester,
he's planning to take five more college classes). He's played a
varsity sport for four years, was captain of his team this year,
and now has a job as a research assistant at a marketing company.
He's quite mature and confident, but he will still only be 16 when
he graduates from high school this spring.
Recently, maybe because of all of the soul-searching that he's done while
writing his college essays, he's been thinking that he's not ready
socially for college next year. He actually has good friends in a
large range of ages (including my favorite, the 25-year-old married
female classmate in his grad class  , but I think he's just tired of
being the youngest kid in class and would like a change.
He's now floating the idea of deferring college enrollment for one year,
and going on a foreign exchange after graduation instead. He's actually been
on exchange for six months already (the second half of his junior year),
but he felt that wasn't enough time to become fully assimilated
into the culture. He'd like to go to a different country for
a full year this time, be a high-school senior for another year,
and just have fun.
At least half of the schools to which kiddo has applied have a formal
policy allowing deferred enrollment, so that shouldn't be a problem.
One possible gotcha is that son has applied to schools that offer
merit aid, and also for an outside-sponsor scholarship, so
we're not sure if those can be deferred as well.
So, my friends, any ideas? Comments? Problems with this plan?
Has anyone had a child who has taken a year off before college?
I have to say that so far, I think it's a great idea, but it seems
just unconventional enough to make the responsible part of me worry
a bit...
Maggie >> Stay informed about: Deferred Enrollment? |
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Since: Jun 22, 2003 Posts: 116
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 1:58 am
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Some of the young men and women in my offspring's high school classes took a
year or two years to engage in study, travel, and/or military service. The
ones I have seen in college after deferment definitely seemed to benefit
from their activities.
Is it right for everyone? Probably not. However your child is on the young
side.
Is giving up one or two years of earnings potential in return for personal
growth worth it? It all depends.
Best,
Abe
"Maggie" wrote in message
> I'm hoping to find some advice from this group regarding
> deferred enrollment. I've been reading sca for years, but
> haven't posted until now...
>
> Son #1 is now a high-school senior and is in the process of applying
> to highly selective colleges. His stats are solid: 2nd in his class of
> 450, at a school where seniors commonly are accepted to the most
> selective colleges and with 10-15 National Merit Finalists each year,
> 1590 SATI in one sitting, mid- to high-700's SATII's, 4's & 5's on
seven
> AP exams taken as a freshman and sophomore, 13 college classes at the
> neighboring Big State U, including a few courses cross-listed at the
> graduate level (he's had one A- and the rest A's; next semester,
> he's planning to take five more college classes). He's played a
> varsity sport for four years, was captain of his team this year,
> and now has a job as a research assistant at a marketing company.
> He's quite mature and confident, but he will still only be 16 when
> he graduates from high school this spring.
>
> Recently, maybe because of all of the soul-searching that he's done
while
> writing his college essays, he's been thinking that he's not ready
> socially for college next year. He actually has good friends in a
> large range of ages (including my favorite, the 25-year-old married
> female classmate in his grad class , but I think he's just tired of
> being the youngest kid in class and would like a change.
>
> He's now floating the idea of deferring college enrollment for one
year,
> and going on a foreign exchange after graduation instead. He's
actually been
> on exchange for six months already (the second half of his junior
year),
> but he felt that wasn't enough time to become fully assimilated
> into the culture. He'd like to go to a different country for
> a full year this time, be a high-school senior for another year,
> and just have fun.
>
> At least half of the schools to which kiddo has applied have a formal
> policy allowing deferred enrollment, so that shouldn't be a problem.
> One possible gotcha is that son has applied to schools that offer
> merit aid, and also for an outside-sponsor scholarship, so
> we're not sure if those can be deferred as well.
>
> So, my friends, any ideas? Comments? Problems with this plan?
> Has anyone had a child who has taken a year off before college?
> I have to say that so far, I think it's a great idea, but it seems
> just unconventional enough to make the responsible part of me worry
> a bit...
>
> Maggie >> Stay informed about: Deferred Enrollment? |
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Since: Dec 03, 2003 Posts: 1
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 3:55 am
Post subject: Re: Deferred Enrollment? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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(Maggie) wrote in
> I'm hoping to find some advice from this group regarding
> deferred enrollment. I've been reading sca for years, but
> haven't posted until now...
<snip>
> So, my friends, any ideas? Comments? Problems with this plan?
> Has anyone had a child who has taken a year off before college?
> I have to say that so far, I think it's a great idea, but it seems
> just unconventional enough to make the responsible part of me worry
> a bit...
> Maggie
I think taking a year off is a great idea. My daughter was accepted
at UPenn and then decided to that she was just too burned out on the
school system to continue without a break, so they accepted a
deferral. Then off she went, worked for a while, went on a cheapo
whirlwind tour of New york and Europe, and stayed with friends and in
youth hostels. She loved it, and after she came back felt ready to
start UPenn, where she's a sophomore now and doing very well.
I strongly believe that most students would benefit from a year off
school after they've been doing it for twelve years (or less, in your
son's case), whether that year is a learning experience, as in your
son's case or just a time to play and regenerate.
I have no idea on the carry-forward status of the scholarships your
son is seeking, but I have found college administration departments
to be most forthright and helpful at selective schools, and you
should ask the administrators of each of the scholarships what the
status would be if he took a year off.
All the best to him and to you.
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Since: Jul 29, 2003 Posts: 36
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 6:46 am
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Personally...I think it's a great idea. Especially because of his age. Even
waiting an entire year he will be on the young side as a freshman. Believe
it or not, a person is a lot more than their academics. College is about
classes, but it is also about maturing and having a bit of fun, too. If he
is near the same age as everyone else and he is at a school where most are
as smart as he is, he will fit in socially a lot better than if he was just
seventeen. Obviously, he is 'smart' enough to do the work now, but you only
have one life...right?
I'd have him help financially with his exchange. That's the only thing I'd
suggest.
As far as the merit aid goes, I think each college would treat that
differently. Perhaps when his flood of acceptances comes in (and you know
they will) you can compare packages and then contact the various schools to
inquire about the defferal of any scholarships he might get. He could also
do what mine is doing right now (another young graduate) and fully
reapplying this fall for next year. If he does go on an exchange it would
definitely look interesting on the applications next year. Of course,
reapplying seems terribly overwhelming right now, but it is a solution to
your issues.
-B
"Maggie" wrote in message
> I'm hoping to find some advice from this group regarding
> deferred enrollment. I've been reading sca for years, but
> haven't posted until now...
>
> Son #1 is now a high-school senior and is in the process of applying
> to highly selective colleges. His stats are solid: 2nd in his class of
> 450, at a school where seniors commonly are accepted to the most
> selective colleges and with 10-15 National Merit Finalists each year,
> 1590 SATI in one sitting, mid- to high-700's SATII's, 4's & 5's on
seven
> AP exams taken as a freshman and sophomore, 13 college classes at the
> neighboring Big State U, including a few courses cross-listed at the
> graduate level (he's had one A- and the rest A's; next semester,
> he's planning to take five more college classes). He's played a
> varsity sport for four years, was captain of his team this year,
> and now has a job as a research assistant at a marketing company.
> He's quite mature and confident, but he will still only be 16 when
> he graduates from high school this spring.
>
> Recently, maybe because of all of the soul-searching that he's done
while
> writing his college essays, he's been thinking that he's not ready
> socially for college next year. He actually has good friends in a
> large range of ages (including my favorite, the 25-year-old married
> female classmate in his grad class , but I think he's just tired of
> being the youngest kid in class and would like a change.
>
> He's now floating the idea of deferring college enrollment for one
year,
> and going on a foreign exchange after graduation instead. He's
actually been
> on exchange for six months already (the second half of his junior
year),
> but he felt that wasn't enough time to become fully assimilated
> into the culture. He'd like to go to a different country for
> a full year this time, be a high-school senior for another year,
> and just have fun.
>
> At least half of the schools to which kiddo has applied have a formal
> policy allowing deferred enrollment, so that shouldn't be a problem.
> One possible gotcha is that son has applied to schools that offer
> merit aid, and also for an outside-sponsor scholarship, so
> we're not sure if those can be deferred as well.
>
> So, my friends, any ideas? Comments? Problems with this plan?
> Has anyone had a child who has taken a year off before college?
> I have to say that so far, I think it's a great idea, but it seems
> just unconventional enough to make the responsible part of me worry
> a bit...
>
> Maggie >> Stay informed about: Deferred Enrollment? |
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Since: Oct 27, 2003 Posts: 20
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 10:07 am
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"Maggie" wrote in message
> Son #1 is now a high-school senior and is in the process of applying
> to highly selective colleges. His stats are solid: 2nd in his class of
> 450, at a school where seniors commonly are accepted to the most
> selective colleges and with 10-15 National Merit Finalists each year,
> 1590 SATI in one sitting, mid- to high-700's SATII's, 4's & 5's on
seven
> AP exams taken as a freshman and sophomore, 13 college classes at the
> neighboring Big State U, including a few courses cross-listed at the
> graduate level (he's had one A- and the rest A's; next semester,
> he's planning to take five more college classes). He's played a
> varsity sport for four years, was captain of his team this year,
> and now has a job as a research assistant at a marketing company.
> He's quite mature and confident, but he will still only be 16 when
> he graduates from high school this spring.
Absolutely, your son should investigate deferring admissions for at least a
year. 16 is very young for college (except maybe for those few like Simon's
Rock that cater to young students) and most especially for the high-level
colleges to which your son will probably gain acceptance. 16 is even
younger for a male student than for a female but I have seen both genders
suffer socially (which can spill over into academics). I do not see any
negatives in taking the time off to regroup, travel, see how the rest of the
world lives -- he will benefit greatly and for the rest of his life. >> Stay informed about: Deferred Enrollment? |
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Since: Sep 15, 2003 Posts: 16
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2003 1:04 pm
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> One possible gotcha is that son has applied to schools that offer
> merit aid, and also for an outside-sponsor scholarship, so
> we're not sure if those can be deferred as well.
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I know three kids who did gap year, none wealthy - 1) Tulane - for
teaching in West Africa 2) Williams - church work 3) Georgetown -
also church work - all three had substantial merit aid, financial aid,
etc. The two church work kids stayed out for two years (building
houses, teen counseling, etc.) - I'm pretty sure all got everything
originally offered when they entered school. >> Stay informed about: Deferred Enrollment? |
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Since: Dec 07, 2003 Posts: 1
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 9:43 pm
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> So, my friends, any ideas? Comments? Problems with this plan?
> Has anyone had a child who has taken a year off before college?
> I have to say that so far, I think it's a great idea, but it seems
> just unconventional enough to make the responsible part of me worry
> a bit...
>
> Maggie
Here in the UK a gap year is a common thing. I'm not going to take one but about half the kids I know might. A foreign exchange might be a little pricey a cheaper option might be volunteer work abroad, what a lot of kids do for their gap year, and internship or a job (maybe for half the time to save up, then spend the money the second half travelling) If he is so advanced academically he might find the last year in a school in another country quite boring, whereas a voluntry position might stretch him in different directions and also give hima chance to experience other cultures. If you search gap year on google loads of programs come up, but alot of them are UK-based, but they are worthwhile looking at.
Hope this is helpful and don't worry too much here in the UK it is not unconventional - kids do it and survive!
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