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http://www.suntimes.com/output/business/23economy.html
Gross Domestic Product grows 8.2% in 3rd-quarter
December 23, 2003
BY MARTIN CRUTSINGER ASSOCIATED PRESS

WASHINGTON -- The U.S. economy, propelled by tax cuts and low interest
rates, roared ahead at an 8.2 percent annual rate in the third quarter, the
best showing in nearly 20 years, while Americans' incomes and spending both
showed healthy gains in November.
The government reports Tuesday on the gross domestic product, the country's
broadest measure of economic health, and personal incomes and spending
provided further evidence that the economy was convincingly shaking off a
prolonged period of lethargy and beginning to fire on all cylinders.
The Commerce Department report that the GDP grew at an 8.2 percent rate in
the third quarter, propelled by a surge in consumer spending, was identical
to the preliminary estimate made a month ago and represented the strongest
growth since an 8.4 percent rate of increase in the fourth quarter of 1983.
In a separate report, the government said consumers were remaining active in
the current quarter with consumer spending rising by 0.4 percent in
November, the best showing since August, and incomes, helped by rising
employment levels, posted an increase of 0.5 percent last month, the best
gain since May.
Many analysts believe that GDP growth in the current quarter could well top
5 percent, representing the best back-to-back growth rates since the boom
years of the 1990s.
The economy began the year growing at much slower rates of 2 percent in the
first quarter and 3.1 percent in the second quarter before the jolt from a
new round of tax cuts propelled consumer spending in the third quarter.
Growth has also been helped this year by the Federal Reserve's decision to
keep a key interest rate at the lowest level in 45 years, providing strength
to such interest rate-sensitive sectors as housing and auto sales.
All of the GDP figures released Tuesday reflected a comprehensive revision
that the government does every five years to make sure the measurement of
total output keeps up with the times. With the changes, the GDP grew by 2.2
percent for all of 2002, down slightly from the previous estimate of 2.4
percent.
The benchmark revisions and the changes to third quarter GDP showed a number
of crosscutting revisions that basically offset each other to make little
impact on the bottom-line number.
For the third quarter, consumer spending was revised up to an even-stronger
6.9 percent rate of growth, the best showing since the third quarter of
1986, compared to last month's estimate of 6.4 percent.
But private investment, which covers housing construction and business
spending on plants and equipment, was revised down to a 14.8 percent rate of
increase, reflecting slightly less business investment which offset a bigger
increase in housing construction.
Even with the strong growth, inflation remained under control with a price
gauge tied to the GDP rising at an annual rate of just 1.8 percent in the
third quarter.
The monthly incomes and spending report showed that 0.4 percent November
jump in consumer spending, which accounts for two-thirds of total economic
activity, followed a tiny 0.1 percent rise in October and no change at all
in September. However spending had soared by 0.9 percent in August,
reflecting the burst of activity spurred by the tax cuts which went into
effect in July.
The 0.5 percent rise in personal incomes followed much smaller increases of
0.2 percent in October and 0.3 percent in September. The strength last month
came from a big wages and salaries, which rose by $16 billion in November
compared to an October gain of $8.2 billion.
After an extended period of layoffs, employers have begun adding workers to
their payrolls, which should help bolster incomes even more in coming
months.

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dpr wrote:

> http://www.suntimes.com/output/business/23economy.html
> Gross Domestic Product grows 8.2% in 3rd-quarter
> December 23, 2003
> BY MARTIN CRUTSINGER ASSOCIATED PRESS
>
> WASHINGTON -- The U.S. economy, propelled by tax cuts and low interest
> rates, roared ahead at an 8.2 percent annual rate in the third quarter, the
> best showing in nearly 20 years, while Americans' incomes and spending both
> showed healthy gains in November.
> The government reports Tuesday on the gross domestic product, the country's
> broadest measure of economic health, and personal incomes and spending
> provided further evidence that the economy was convincingly shaking off a
> prolonged period of lethargy and beginning to fire on all cylinders.
> The Commerce Department report that the GDP grew at an 8.2 percent rate in
> the third quarter, propelled by a surge in consumer spending, was identical
> to the preliminary estimate made a month ago and represented the strongest
> growth since an 8.4 percent rate of increase in the fourth quarter of 1983.
> In a separate report, the government said consumers were remaining active in
> the current quarter with consumer spending rising by 0.4 percent in
> November, the best showing since August, and incomes, helped by rising
> employment levels, posted an increase of 0.5 percent last month, the best
> gain since May.
> Many analysts believe that GDP growth in the current quarter could well top
> 5 percent, representing the best back-to-back growth rates since the boom
> years of the 1990s.
> The economy began the year growing at much slower rates of 2 percent in the
> first quarter and 3.1 percent in the second quarter before the jolt from a
> new round of tax cuts propelled consumer spending in the third quarter.
> Growth has also been helped this year by the Federal Reserve's decision to
> keep a key interest rate at the lowest level in 45 years, providing strength
> to such interest rate-sensitive sectors as housing and auto sales.
> All of the GDP figures released Tuesday reflected a comprehensive revision
> that the government does every five years to make sure the measurement of
> total output keeps up with the times. With the changes, the GDP grew by 2.2
> percent for all of 2002, down slightly from the previous estimate of 2.4
> percent.
> The benchmark revisions and the changes to third quarter GDP showed a number
> of crosscutting revisions that basically offset each other to make little
> impact on the bottom-line number.
> For the third quarter, consumer spending was revised up to an even-stronger
> 6.9 percent rate of growth, the best showing since the third quarter of
> 1986, compared to last month's estimate of 6.4 percent.
> But private investment, which covers housing construction and business
> spending on plants and equipment, was revised down to a 14.8 percent rate of
> increase, reflecting slightly less business investment which offset a bigger
> increase in housing construction.
> Even with the strong growth, inflation remained under control with a price
> gauge tied to the GDP rising at an annual rate of just 1.8 percent in the
> third quarter.
> The monthly incomes and spending report showed that 0.4 percent November
> jump in consumer spending, which accounts for two-thirds of total economic
> activity, followed a tiny 0.1 percent rise in October and no change at all
> in September. However spending had soared by 0.9 percent in August,
> reflecting the burst of activity spurred by the tax cuts which went into
> effect in July.
> The 0.5 percent rise in personal incomes followed much smaller increases of
> 0.2 percent in October and 0.3 percent in September. The strength last month
> came from a big wages and salaries, which rose by $16 billion in November
> compared to an October gain of $8.2 billion.
> After an extended period of layoffs, employers have begun adding workers to
> their payrolls, which should help bolster incomes even more in coming
> months.
>


Big deal. Miserable GDP meets Xmas season. Of course there's growth.

betcha most of the new hires lose their jobs once the season ends.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 3:36 pm
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> dpr wrote:
>
> > http://www.suntimes.com/output/business/23economy.html
> > Gross Domestic Product grows 8.2% in 3rd-quarter
> > December 23, 2003
> > BY MARTIN CRUTSINGER ASSOCIATED PRESS
> >
> > WASHINGTON -- The U.S. economy, propelled by tax cuts and low interest
> > rates, roared ahead at an 8.2 percent annual rate in the third quarter,
the
> > best showing in nearly 20 years, while Americans' incomes and spending
both
> > showed healthy gains in November.
> > The government reports Tuesday on the gross domestic product, the
country's
> > broadest measure of economic health, and personal incomes and spending
> > provided further evidence that the economy was convincingly shaking off
a
> > prolonged period of lethargy and beginning to fire on all cylinders.
> > The Commerce Department report that the GDP grew at an 8.2 percent rate
in
> > the third quarter, propelled by a surge in consumer spending, was
identical
> > to the preliminary estimate made a month ago and represented the
strongest
> > growth since an 8.4 percent rate of increase in the fourth quarter of
1983.
> > In a separate report, the government said consumers were remaining
active in
> > the current quarter with consumer spending rising by 0.4 percent in
> > November, the best showing since August, and incomes, helped by rising
> > employment levels, posted an increase of 0.5 percent last month, the
best
> > gain since May.
> > Many analysts believe that GDP growth in the current quarter could well
top
> > 5 percent, representing the best back-to-back growth rates since the
boom
> > years of the 1990s.
> > The economy began the year growing at much slower rates of 2 percent in
the
> > first quarter and 3.1 percent in the second quarter before the jolt from
a
> > new round of tax cuts propelled consumer spending in the third quarter.
> > Growth has also been helped this year by the Federal Reserve's decision
to
> > keep a key interest rate at the lowest level in 45 years, providing
strength
> > to such interest rate-sensitive sectors as housing and auto sales.
> > All of the GDP figures released Tuesday reflected a comprehensive
revision
> > that the government does every five years to make sure the measurement
of
> > total output keeps up with the times. With the changes, the GDP grew by
2.2
> > percent for all of 2002, down slightly from the previous estimate of 2.4
> > percent.
> > The benchmark revisions and the changes to third quarter GDP showed a
number
> > of crosscutting revisions that basically offset each other to make
little
> > impact on the bottom-line number.
> > For the third quarter, consumer spending was revised up to an
even-stronger
> > 6.9 percent rate of growth, the best showing since the third quarter of
> > 1986, compared to last month's estimate of 6.4 percent.
> > But private investment, which covers housing construction and business
> > spending on plants and equipment, was revised down to a 14.8 percent
rate of
> > increase, reflecting slightly less business investment which offset a
bigger
> > increase in housing construction.
> > Even with the strong growth, inflation remained under control with a
price
> > gauge tied to the GDP rising at an annual rate of just 1.8 percent in
the
> > third quarter.
> > The monthly incomes and spending report showed that 0.4 percent November
> > jump in consumer spending, which accounts for two-thirds of total
economic
> > activity, followed a tiny 0.1 percent rise in October and no change at
all
> > in September. However spending had soared by 0.9 percent in August,
> > reflecting the burst of activity spurred by the tax cuts which went into
> > effect in July.
> > The 0.5 percent rise in personal incomes followed much smaller increases
of
> > 0.2 percent in October and 0.3 percent in September. The strength last
month
> > came from a big wages and salaries, which rose by $16 billion in
November
> > compared to an October gain of $8.2 billion.
> > After an extended period of layoffs, employers have begun adding workers
to
> > their payrolls, which should help bolster incomes even more in coming
> > months.
> >
>
>
> Big deal. Miserable GDP meets Xmas season. Of course there's growth.

Xmas is in the 4th quarter, the increase was for the 3rd quarter.

>
> betcha most of the new hires lose their jobs once the season ends.
>
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> Big deal. Miserable GDP meets Xmas season. Of course there's growth.
>
> betcha most of the new hires lose their jobs once the season ends.

All numbers are seasonal adjusted to reflect that dimwit.
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On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 12:36:57 -0600, Server 13 <c-bee1.TakeThisOut@uiuc.edu> wrote:

>dpr wrote:
>
>> http://www.suntimes.com/output/business/23economy.html
>> Gross Domestic Product grows 8.2% in 3rd-quarter
>> December 23, 2003
>> BY MARTIN CRUTSINGER ASSOCIATED PRESS
>>
>> WASHINGTON -- The U.S. economy, propelled by tax cuts and low interest
>> rates, roared ahead at an 8.2 percent annual rate in the third quarter, the
>> best showing in nearly 20 years, while Americans' incomes and spending both
>> showed healthy gains in November.
>> The government reports Tuesday on the gross domestic product, the country's
>> broadest measure of economic health, and personal incomes and spending
>> provided further evidence that the economy was convincingly shaking off a
>> prolonged period of lethargy and beginning to fire on all cylinders.
>> The Commerce Department report that the GDP grew at an 8.2 percent rate in
>> the third quarter, propelled by a surge in consumer spending, was identical
>> to the preliminary estimate made a month ago and represented the strongest
>> growth since an 8.4 percent rate of increase in the fourth quarter of 1983.
>> In a separate report, the government said consumers were remaining active in
>> the current quarter with consumer spending rising by 0.4 percent in
>> November, the best showing since August, and incomes, helped by rising
>> employment levels, posted an increase of 0.5 percent last month, the best
>> gain since May.
>> Many analysts believe that GDP growth in the current quarter could well top
>> 5 percent, representing the best back-to-back growth rates since the boom
>> years of the 1990s.
>> The economy began the year growing at much slower rates of 2 percent in the
>> first quarter and 3.1 percent in the second quarter before the jolt from a
>> new round of tax cuts propelled consumer spending in the third quarter.
>> Growth has also been helped this year by the Federal Reserve's decision to
>> keep a key interest rate at the lowest level in 45 years, providing strength
>> to such interest rate-sensitive sectors as housing and auto sales.
>> All of the GDP figures released Tuesday reflected a comprehensive revision
>> that the government does every five years to make sure the measurement of
>> total output keeps up with the times. With the changes, the GDP grew by 2.2
>> percent for all of 2002, down slightly from the previous estimate of 2.4
>> percent.
>> The benchmark revisions and the changes to third quarter GDP showed a number
>> of crosscutting revisions that basically offset each other to make little
>> impact on the bottom-line number.
>> For the third quarter, consumer spending was revised up to an even-stronger
>> 6.9 percent rate of growth, the best showing since the third quarter of
>> 1986, compared to last month's estimate of 6.4 percent.
>> But private investment, which covers housing construction and business
>> spending on plants and equipment, was revised down to a 14.8 percent rate of
>> increase, reflecting slightly less business investment which offset a bigger
>> increase in housing construction.
>> Even with the strong growth, inflation remained under control with a price
>> gauge tied to the GDP rising at an annual rate of just 1.8 percent in the
>> third quarter.
>> The monthly incomes and spending report showed that 0.4 percent November
>> jump in consumer spending, which accounts for two-thirds of total economic
>> activity, followed a tiny 0.1 percent rise in October and no change at all
>> in September. However spending had soared by 0.9 percent in August,
>> reflecting the burst of activity spurred by the tax cuts which went into
>> effect in July.
>> The 0.5 percent rise in personal incomes followed much smaller increases of
>> 0.2 percent in October and 0.3 percent in September. The strength last month
>> came from a big wages and salaries, which rose by $16 billion in November
>> compared to an October gain of $8.2 billion.
>> After an extended period of layoffs, employers have begun adding workers to
>> their payrolls, which should help bolster incomes even more in coming
>> months.
>>
>
>
> Big deal. Miserable GDP meets Xmas season. Of course there's growth.
>
> betcha most of the new hires lose their jobs once the season ends.

Those grapes are probably sour anyway.

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On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:08:34 -0900, "dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote:

>"Server 13" <c-bee1 RemoveThis @uiuc.edu> wrote in message
>news:bsa275$gg6$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu...
>> dpr wrote:
>>
>> > http://www.suntimes.com/output/business/23economy.html
>> > Gross Domestic Product grows 8.2% in 3rd-quarter
>> > December 23, 2003
>> > BY MARTIN CRUTSINGER ASSOCIATED PRESS
>> >
>> > WASHINGTON -- The U.S. economy, propelled by tax cuts and low interest
>> > rates, roared ahead at an 8.2 percent annual rate in the third quarter,
>the
>> > best showing in nearly 20 years, while Americans' incomes and spending
>both
>> > showed healthy gains in November.
>> > The government reports Tuesday on the gross domestic product, the
>country's
>> > broadest measure of economic health, and personal incomes and spending
>> > provided further evidence that the economy was convincingly shaking off
>a
>> > prolonged period of lethargy and beginning to fire on all cylinders.
>> > The Commerce Department report that the GDP grew at an 8.2 percent rate
>in
>> > the third quarter, propelled by a surge in consumer spending, was
>identical
>> > to the preliminary estimate made a month ago and represented the
>strongest
>> > growth since an 8.4 percent rate of increase in the fourth quarter of
>1983.
>> > In a separate report, the government said consumers were remaining
>active in
>> > the current quarter with consumer spending rising by 0.4 percent in
>> > November, the best showing since August, and incomes, helped by rising
>> > employment levels, posted an increase of 0.5 percent last month, the
>best
>> > gain since May.
>> > Many analysts believe that GDP growth in the current quarter could well
>top
>> > 5 percent, representing the best back-to-back growth rates since the
>boom
>> > years of the 1990s.
>> > The economy began the year growing at much slower rates of 2 percent in
>the
>> > first quarter and 3.1 percent in the second quarter before the jolt from
>a
>> > new round of tax cuts propelled consumer spending in the third quarter.
>> > Growth has also been helped this year by the Federal Reserve's decision
>to
>> > keep a key interest rate at the lowest level in 45 years, providing
>strength
>> > to such interest rate-sensitive sectors as housing and auto sales.
>> > All of the GDP figures released Tuesday reflected a comprehensive
>revision
>> > that the government does every five years to make sure the measurement
>of
>> > total output keeps up with the times. With the changes, the GDP grew by
>2.2
>> > percent for all of 2002, down slightly from the previous estimate of 2.4
>> > percent.
>> > The benchmark revisions and the changes to third quarter GDP showed a
>number
>> > of crosscutting revisions that basically offset each other to make
>little
>> > impact on the bottom-line number.
>> > For the third quarter, consumer spending was revised up to an
>even-stronger
>> > 6.9 percent rate of growth, the best showing since the third quarter of
>> > 1986, compared to last month's estimate of 6.4 percent.
>> > But private investment, which covers housing construction and business
>> > spending on plants and equipment, was revised down to a 14.8 percent
>rate of
>> > increase, reflecting slightly less business investment which offset a
>bigger
>> > increase in housing construction.
>> > Even with the strong growth, inflation remained under control with a
>price
>> > gauge tied to the GDP rising at an annual rate of just 1.8 percent in
>the
>> > third quarter.
>> > The monthly incomes and spending report showed that 0.4 percent November
>> > jump in consumer spending, which accounts for two-thirds of total
>economic
>> > activity, followed a tiny 0.1 percent rise in October and no change at
>all
>> > in September. However spending had soared by 0.9 percent in August,
>> > reflecting the burst of activity spurred by the tax cuts which went into
>> > effect in July.
>> > The 0.5 percent rise in personal incomes followed much smaller increases
>of
>> > 0.2 percent in October and 0.3 percent in September. The strength last
>month
>> > came from a big wages and salaries, which rose by $16 billion in
>November
>> > compared to an October gain of $8.2 billion.
>> > After an extended period of layoffs, employers have begun adding workers
>to
>> > their payrolls, which should help bolster incomes even more in coming
>> > months.
>> >
>>
>>
>> Big deal. Miserable GDP meets Xmas season. Of course there's growth.
>
>Xmas is in the 4th quarter, the increase was for the 3rd quarter.


Don't confuse him with facts.






>>
>> betcha most of the new hires lose their jobs once the season ends.
>>
>


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dpr wrote:
> "Server 13" <c-bee1 DeleteThis @uiuc.edu> wrote in message
> news:bsa275$gg6$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu...
>
>>dpr wrote:
>>
>>
>>>http://www.suntimes.com/output/business/23economy.html
>>>Gross Domestic Product grows 8.2% in 3rd-quarter
>>>December 23, 2003
>>>BY MARTIN CRUTSINGER ASSOCIATED PRESS
>>>
>>>WASHINGTON -- The U.S. economy, propelled by tax cuts and low interest
>>>rates, roared ahead at an 8.2 percent annual rate in the third quarter,
>
> the
>
>>>best showing in nearly 20 years, while Americans' incomes and spending
>
> both
>
>>>showed healthy gains in November.
>>>The government reports Tuesday on the gross domestic product, the
>
> country's
>
>>>broadest measure of economic health, and personal incomes and spending
>>>provided further evidence that the economy was convincingly shaking off
>
> a
>
>>>prolonged period of lethargy and beginning to fire on all cylinders.
>>>The Commerce Department report that the GDP grew at an 8.2 percent rate
>
> in
>
>>>the third quarter, propelled by a surge in consumer spending, was
>
> identical
>
>>>to the preliminary estimate made a month ago and represented the
>
> strongest
>
>>>growth since an 8.4 percent rate of increase in the fourth quarter of
>
> 1983.
>
>>>In a separate report, the government said consumers were remaining
>
> active in
>
>>>the current quarter with consumer spending rising by 0.4 percent in
>>>November, the best showing since August, and incomes, helped by rising
>>>employment levels, posted an increase of 0.5 percent last month, the
>
> best
>
>>>gain since May.
>>>Many analysts believe that GDP growth in the current quarter could well
>
> top
>
>>>5 percent, representing the best back-to-back growth rates since the
>
> boom
>
>>>years of the 1990s.
>>>The economy began the year growing at much slower rates of 2 percent in
>
> the
>
>>>first quarter and 3.1 percent in the second quarter before the jolt from
>
> a
>
>>>new round of tax cuts propelled consumer spending in the third quarter.
>>>Growth has also been helped this year by the Federal Reserve's decision
>
> to
>
>>>keep a key interest rate at the lowest level in 45 years, providing
>
> strength
>
>>>to such interest rate-sensitive sectors as housing and auto sales.
>>>All of the GDP figures released Tuesday reflected a comprehensive
>
> revision
>
>>>that the government does every five years to make sure the measurement
>
> of
>
>>>total output keeps up with the times. With the changes, the GDP grew by
>
> 2.2
>
>>>percent for all of 2002, down slightly from the previous estimate of 2.4
>>>percent.
>>>The benchmark revisions and the changes to third quarter GDP showed a
>
> number
>
>>>of crosscutting revisions that basically offset each other to make
>
> little
>
>>>impact on the bottom-line number.
>>>For the third quarter, consumer spending was revised up to an
>
> even-stronger
>
>>>6.9 percent rate of growth, the best showing since the third quarter of
>>>1986, compared to last month's estimate of 6.4 percent.
>>>But private investment, which covers housing construction and business
>>>spending on plants and equipment, was revised down to a 14.8 percent
>
> rate of
>
>>>increase, reflecting slightly less business investment which offset a
>
> bigger
>
>>>increase in housing construction.
>>>Even with the strong growth, inflation remained under control with a
>
> price
>
>>>gauge tied to the GDP rising at an annual rate of just 1.8 percent in
>
> the
>
>>>third quarter.
>>>The monthly incomes and spending report showed that 0.4 percent November
>>>jump in consumer spending, which accounts for two-thirds of total
>
> economic
>
>>>activity, followed a tiny 0.1 percent rise in October and no change at
>
> all
>
>>>in September. However spending had soared by 0.9 percent in August,
>>>reflecting the burst of activity spurred by the tax cuts which went into
>>>effect in July.
>>>The 0.5 percent rise in personal incomes followed much smaller increases
>
> of
>
>>>0.2 percent in October and 0.3 percent in September. The strength last
>
> month
>
>>>came from a big wages and salaries, which rose by $16 billion in
>
> November
>
>>>compared to an October gain of $8.2 billion.
>>>After an extended period of layoffs, employers have begun adding workers
>
> to
>
>>>their payrolls, which should help bolster incomes even more in coming
>>>months.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Big deal. Miserable GDP meets Xmas season. Of course there's growth.
>
>
> Xmas is in the 4th quarter, the increase was for the 3rd quarter.

yep, when they hire the Xmas temps.
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> >
> >>dpr wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>http://www.suntimes.com/output/business/23economy.html
> >>>Gross Domestic Product grows 8.2% in 3rd-quarter
> >>>December 23, 2003
> >>>BY MARTIN CRUTSINGER ASSOCIATED PRESS
> >>>
> >>>WASHINGTON -- The U.S. economy, propelled by tax cuts and low interest
> >>>rates, roared ahead at an 8.2 percent annual rate in the third quarter,
> >
> > the
> >
> >>>best showing in nearly 20 years, while Americans' incomes and spending
> >
> > both
> >
> >>>showed healthy gains in November.
> >>>The government reports Tuesday on the gross domestic product, the
> >
> > country's
> >
> >>>broadest measure of economic health, and personal incomes and spending
> >>>provided further evidence that the economy was convincingly shaking off
> >
> > a
> >
> >>>prolonged period of lethargy and beginning to fire on all cylinders.
> >>>The Commerce Department report that the GDP grew at an 8.2 percent rate
> >
> > in
> >
> >>>the third quarter, propelled by a surge in consumer spending, was
> >
> > identical
> >
> >>>to the preliminary estimate made a month ago and represented the
> >
> > strongest
> >
> >>>growth since an 8.4 percent rate of increase in the fourth quarter of
> >
> > 1983.
> >
> >>>In a separate report, the government said consumers were remaining
> >
> > active in
> >
> >>>the current quarter with consumer spending rising by 0.4 percent in
> >>>November, the best showing since August, and incomes, helped by rising
> >>>employment levels, posted an increase of 0.5 percent last month, the
> >
> > best
> >
> >>>gain since May.
> >>>Many analysts believe that GDP growth in the current quarter could well
> >
> > top
> >
> >>>5 percent, representing the best back-to-back growth rates since the
> >
> > boom
> >
> >>>years of the 1990s.
> >>>The economy began the year growing at much slower rates of 2 percent in
> >
> > the
> >
> >>>first quarter and 3.1 percent in the second quarter before the jolt
from
> >
> > a
> >
> >>>new round of tax cuts propelled consumer spending in the third quarter.
> >>>Growth has also been helped this year by the Federal Reserve's decision
> >
> > to
> >
> >>>keep a key interest rate at the lowest level in 45 years, providing
> >
> > strength
> >
> >>>to such interest rate-sensitive sectors as housing and auto sales.
> >>>All of the GDP figures released Tuesday reflected a comprehensive
> >
> > revision
> >
> >>>that the government does every five years to make sure the measurement
> >
> > of
> >
> >>>total output keeps up with the times. With the changes, the GDP grew by
> >
> > 2.2
> >
> >>>percent for all of 2002, down slightly from the previous estimate of
2.4
> >>>percent.
> >>>The benchmark revisions and the changes to third quarter GDP showed a
> >
> > number
> >
> >>>of crosscutting revisions that basically offset each other to make
> >
> > little
> >
> >>>impact on the bottom-line number.
> >>>For the third quarter, consumer spending was revised up to an
> >
> > even-stronger
> >
> >>>6.9 percent rate of growth, the best showing since the third quarter of
> >>>1986, compared to last month's estimate of 6.4 percent.
> >>>But private investment, which covers housing construction and business
> >>>spending on plants and equipment, was revised down to a 14.8 percent
> >
> > rate of
> >
> >>>increase, reflecting slightly less business investment which offset a
> >
> > bigger
> >
> >>>increase in housing construction.
> >>>Even with the strong growth, inflation remained under control with a
> >
> > price
> >
> >>>gauge tied to the GDP rising at an annual rate of just 1.8 percent in
> >
> > the
> >
> >>>third quarter.
> >>>The monthly incomes and spending report showed that 0.4 percent
November
> >>>jump in consumer spending, which accounts for two-thirds of total
> >
> > economic
> >
> >>>activity, followed a tiny 0.1 percent rise in October and no change at
> >
> > all
> >
> >>>in September. However spending had soared by 0.9 percent in August,
> >>>reflecting the burst of activity spurred by the tax cuts which went
into
> >>>effect in July.
> >>>The 0.5 percent rise in personal incomes followed much smaller
increases
> >
> > of
> >
> >>>0.2 percent in October and 0.3 percent in September. The strength last
> >
> > month
> >
> >>>came from a big wages and salaries, which rose by $16 billion in
> >
> > November
> >
> >>>compared to an October gain of $8.2 billion.
> >>>After an extended period of layoffs, employers have begun adding
workers
> >
> > to
> >
> >>>their payrolls, which should help bolster incomes even more in coming
> >>>months.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> Big deal. Miserable GDP meets Xmas season. Of course there's
growth.
> >
> >
> > Xmas is in the 4th quarter, the increase was for the 3rd quarter.
>
> yep, when they hire the Xmas temps.

Look at the fool begin to spin

>
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Paul wrote:

> Server 13 wrote:
>
>> Big deal. Miserable GDP meets Xmas season. Of course there's growth.
>>
>> betcha most of the new hires lose their jobs once the season ends.
>
>
> All numbers are seasonal adjusted to reflect that dimwit.
>

I don't see that in the article.
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The Frog wrote:

> On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 12:36:57 -0600, Server 13 <c-bee1.RemoveThis@uiuc.edu> wrote:
>
>
>>dpr wrote:
>>
>>
>>>http://www.suntimes.com/output/business/23economy.html
>>>Gross Domestic Product grows 8.2% in 3rd-quarter
>>>December 23, 2003
>>>BY MARTIN CRUTSINGER ASSOCIATED PRESS
>>>
>>>WASHINGTON -- The U.S. economy, propelled by tax cuts and low interest
>>>rates, roared ahead at an 8.2 percent annual rate in the third quarter, the
>>>best showing in nearly 20 years, while Americans' incomes and spending both
>>>showed healthy gains in November.
>>>The government reports Tuesday on the gross domestic product, the country's
>>>broadest measure of economic health, and personal incomes and spending
>>>provided further evidence that the economy was convincingly shaking off a
>>>prolonged period of lethargy and beginning to fire on all cylinders.
>>>The Commerce Department report that the GDP grew at an 8.2 percent rate in
>>>the third quarter, propelled by a surge in consumer spending, was identical
>>>to the preliminary estimate made a month ago and represented the strongest
>>>growth since an 8.4 percent rate of increase in the fourth quarter of 1983.
>>>In a separate report, the government said consumers were remaining active in
>>>the current quarter with consumer spending rising by 0.4 percent in
>>>November, the best showing since August, and incomes, helped by rising
>>>employment levels, posted an increase of 0.5 percent last month, the best
>>>gain since May.
>>>Many analysts believe that GDP growth in the current quarter could well top
>>>5 percent, representing the best back-to-back growth rates since the boom
>>>years of the 1990s.
>>>The economy began the year growing at much slower rates of 2 percent in the
>>>first quarter and 3.1 percent in the second quarter before the jolt from a
>>>new round of tax cuts propelled consumer spending in the third quarter.
>>>Growth has also been helped this year by the Federal Reserve's decision to
>>>keep a key interest rate at the lowest level in 45 years, providing strength
>>>to such interest rate-sensitive sectors as housing and auto sales.
>>>All of the GDP figures released Tuesday reflected a comprehensive revision
>>>that the government does every five years to make sure the measurement of
>>>total output keeps up with the times. With the changes, the GDP grew by 2.2
>>>percent for all of 2002, down slightly from the previous estimate of 2.4
>>>percent.
>>>The benchmark revisions and the changes to third quarter GDP showed a number
>>>of crosscutting revisions that basically offset each other to make little
>>>impact on the bottom-line number.
>>>For the third quarter, consumer spending was revised up to an even-stronger
>>>6.9 percent rate of growth, the best showing since the third quarter of
>>>1986, compared to last month's estimate of 6.4 percent.
>>>But private investment, which covers housing construction and business
>>>spending on plants and equipment, was revised down to a 14.8 percent rate of
>>>increase, reflecting slightly less business investment which offset a bigger
>>>increase in housing construction.
>>>Even with the strong growth, inflation remained under control with a price
>>>gauge tied to the GDP rising at an annual rate of just 1.8 percent in the
>>>third quarter.
>>>The monthly incomes and spending report showed that 0.4 percent November
>>>jump in consumer spending, which accounts for two-thirds of total economic
>>>activity, followed a tiny 0.1 percent rise in October and no change at all
>>>in September. However spending had soared by 0.9 percent in August,
>>>reflecting the burst of activity spurred by the tax cuts which went into
>>>effect in July.
>>>The 0.5 percent rise in personal incomes followed much smaller increases of
>>>0.2 percent in October and 0.3 percent in September. The strength last month
>>>came from a big wages and salaries, which rose by $16 billion in November
>>>compared to an October gain of $8.2 billion.
>>>After an extended period of layoffs, employers have begun adding workers to
>>>their payrolls, which should help bolster incomes even more in coming
>>>months.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Big deal. Miserable GDP meets Xmas season. Of course there's growth.
>>
>> betcha most of the new hires lose their jobs once the season ends.
>
>
> Those grapes are probably sour anyway.

It would be, but I have already replaced the full-time scientific
illustrator job Bush did me out of with enough freelance research specialist
work that I can skip the unemployment office. Not bad for a "liberal", eh?

Hint: I'm not really a liberal.
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dpr wrote:

> "Server 13" <c-bee1 DeleteThis @uiuc.edu> wrote in message
> news:bsac92$jqi$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu...
>
>>dpr wrote:
>>
>>>"Server 13" <c-bee1 DeleteThis @uiuc.edu> wrote in message
>>>news:bsa275$gg6$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu...
>>>
>>>
>>>>dpr wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>http://www.suntimes.com/output/business/23economy.html
>>>>>Gross Domestic Product grows 8.2% in 3rd-quarter
>>>>>December 23, 2003
>>>>>BY MARTIN CRUTSINGER ASSOCIATED PRESS
>>>>>
>>>>>WASHINGTON -- The U.S. economy, propelled by tax cuts and low interest
>>>>>rates, roared ahead at an 8.2 percent annual rate in the third quarter,
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>
>>>>>best showing in nearly 20 years, while Americans' incomes and spending
>>>
>>>both
>>>
>>>
>>>>>showed healthy gains in November.
>>>>>The government reports Tuesday on the gross domestic product, the
>>>
>>>country's
>>>
>>>
>>>>>broadest measure of economic health, and personal incomes and spending
>>>>>provided further evidence that the economy was convincingly shaking off
>>>
>>>a
>>>
>>>
>>>>>prolonged period of lethargy and beginning to fire on all cylinders.
>>>>>The Commerce Department report that the GDP grew at an 8.2 percent rate
>>>
>>>in
>>>
>>>
>>>>>the third quarter, propelled by a surge in consumer spending, was
>>>
>>>identical
>>>
>>>
>>>>>to the preliminary estimate made a month ago and represented the
>>>
>>>strongest
>>>
>>>
>>>>>growth since an 8.4 percent rate of increase in the fourth quarter of
>>>
>>>1983.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>In a separate report, the government said consumers were remaining
>>>
>>>active in
>>>
>>>
>>>>>the current quarter with consumer spending rising by 0.4 percent in
>>>>>November, the best showing since August, and incomes, helped by rising
>>>>>employment levels, posted an increase of 0.5 percent last month, the
>>>
>>>best
>>>
>>>
>>>>>gain since May.
>>>>>Many analysts believe that GDP growth in the current quarter could well
>>>
>>>top
>>>
>>>
>>>>>5 percent, representing the best back-to-back growth rates since the
>>>
>>>boom
>>>
>>>
>>>>>years of the 1990s.
>>>>>The economy began the year growing at much slower rates of 2 percent in
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>
>>>>>first quarter and 3.1 percent in the second quarter before the jolt
>
> from
>
>>>a
>>>
>>>
>>>>>new round of tax cuts propelled consumer spending in the third quarter.
>>>>>Growth has also been helped this year by the Federal Reserve's decision
>>>
>>>to
>>>
>>>
>>>>>keep a key interest rate at the lowest level in 45 years, providing
>>>
>>>strength
>>>
>>>
>>>>>to such interest rate-sensitive sectors as housing and auto sales.
>>>>>All of the GDP figures released Tuesday reflected a comprehensive
>>>
>>>revision
>>>
>>>
>>>>>that the government does every five years to make sure the measurement
>>>
>>>of
>>>
>>>
>>>>>total output keeps up with the times. With the changes, the GDP grew by
>>>
>>>2.2
>>>
>>>
>>>>>percent for all of 2002, down slightly from the previous estimate of
>
> 2.4
>
>>>>>percent.
>>>>>The benchmark revisions and the changes to third quarter GDP showed a
>>>
>>>number
>>>
>>>
>>>>>of crosscutting revisions that basically offset each other to make
>>>
>>>little
>>>
>>>
>>>>>impact on the bottom-line number.
>>>>>For the third quarter, consumer spending was revised up to an
>>>
>>>even-stronger
>>>
>>>
>>>>>6.9 percent rate of growth, the best showing since the third quarter of
>>>>>1986, compared to last month's estimate of 6.4 percent.
>>>>>But private investment, which covers housing construction and business
>>>>>spending on plants and equipment, was revised down to a 14.8 percent
>>>
>>>rate of
>>>
>>>
>>>>>increase, reflecting slightly less business investment which offset a
>>>
>>>bigger
>>>
>>>
>>>>>increase in housing construction.
>>>>>Even with the strong growth, inflation remained under control with a
>>>
>>>price
>>>
>>>
>>>>>gauge tied to the GDP rising at an annual rate of just 1.8 percent in
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>
>>>>>third quarter.
>>>>>The monthly incomes and spending report showed that 0.4 percent
>
> November
>
>>>>>jump in consumer spending, which accounts for two-thirds of total
>>>
>>>economic
>>>
>>>
>>>>>activity, followed a tiny 0.1 percent rise in October and no change at
>>>
>>>all
>>>
>>>
>>>>>in September. However spending had soared by 0.9 percent in August,
>>>>>reflecting the burst of activity spurred by the tax cuts which went
>
> into
>
>>>>>effect in July.
>>>>>The 0.5 percent rise in personal incomes followed much smaller
>
> increases
>
>>>of
>>>
>>>
>>>>>0.2 percent in October and 0.3 percent in September. The strength last
>>>
>>>month
>>>
>>>
>>>>>came from a big wages and salaries, which rose by $16 billion in
>>>
>>>November
>>>
>>>
>>>>>compared to an October gain of $8.2 billion.
>>>>>After an extended period of layoffs, employers have begun adding
>
> workers
>
>>>to
>>>
>>>
>>>>>their payrolls, which should help bolster incomes even more in coming
>>>>>months.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Big deal. Miserable GDP meets Xmas season. Of course there's
>
> growth.
>
>>>
>>>Xmas is in the 4th quarter, the increase was for the 3rd quarter.
>>
>> yep, when they hire the Xmas temps.
>
>
> Look at the fool begin to spin
>
>
>
>
See 'Xmas season' in my very first response. lol
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2003 12:53 pm
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On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:11:44 -0900, "dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote:

>http://www.suntimes.com/output/business/23economy.html
>Gross Domestic Product grows 8.2% in 3rd-quarter
>December 23, 2003
>BY MARTIN CRUTSINGER ASSOCIATED PRESS
>

Just another lie from the lyingest administration in history.
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