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(Msg. 16) Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 2:29 am
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On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:46:00 -0500, AC wrote
> On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:26:22 +1000,
> Clayton Reveals "I Had Elvis's Baby"...Page 7 <cjfat.TakeThisOut@SPAMBLOCKphonymails.com>
> wrote:
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>> "Conspiracy of Doves" <mark_dp73.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1114517477.212860.268840@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
>>> Do creationists ever respond to posts like this?
>>>
>> Oh they'll fling a few lies and non-sequitors and not address any subject or
>> provide any evidence but they will claim to have soundly defeated the
>> "evolutionists" anyway!
>
> Actually I kind of like McNameless's approach. "If you don't believe
> exactly as I believe, you're going to pay big time!" It's got the Olde Time
> Religion feel to it.
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Or the "Tailgunner Joe the Drunk" feel to it.
Whatever . . .
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 2:32 am
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On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:05:55 -0500, bg12345.RemoveThis@apexmail.com
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> Dan Clore wrote:
>> http://startribune.com
>> Pseudoscience would waste teaching time
>> by Paul Z. Myers
>> Published April 24, 2005
>>
>> Intelligent design (ID) has failed to meet even the minimal
>> standards of evidence and scholarship we should expect of
>> the science we teach our children. Teaching it steals time
>> from more vital subjects in which our kids should be grounded.
>
> On Myers' blog, <http://pharyngula.org>, this post appears:
>
> Write the Strib!
>
> By the way, the Star Tribune has a request on their
> op-ex page:
>
> An invitation to readers on ID/evolution.
> We're interested in your thoughts on intelligent design,
> evolution, and their proper places in school curricula.
> Write us an e-mail of no more than 150 words and send it
> to opinion.RemoveThis@startribune.com, with the word "evolution" in
> the subject line. Be sure to include your name, address
> and telephone number so we can contact you if we decide
> to publish your response. Please reply by Monday, May 2.
>
> Let's flood the Strib with pro-evolution letters!
>
> Sounds like a good idea to me.
>
>
> Bob Dog
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> Divine retribution is an idol threat.
>
There's evolution and then there are the Darwin Awards.
Without people earning Darwin Awards,
there would be no evolution.
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 2:35 am
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On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:24:09 -0500, bja.DeleteThis@ix.netcom.com wrote
> Have creationist ever figured out who designed the designer?
>
Well, "Lucifer" means "Light-Bringer" or "Morning Star".
I've never met a sober creationist/Intelligent Cancer
Designer who could cope with H D S Haldane.
Gray Shockley
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The world is not only queerer than we
know, it's queerer than we can know.
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 2:51 am
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"stoney" <stoney.RemoveThis@the.net> wrote
> On 26 Apr 2005 19:24:09 -0700, bja.RemoveThis@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> >Have creationist ever figured out who designed the designer?
> You've gotta be kidding. Cretinists can't even wipe their arses
> without assistance.
That's not true! They use their tongues and.... OH!
You mean "Their own" asses!
Never mind.
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 11:44 am
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On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 23:51:39 -0400, "JTEM" <gymraven.DeleteThis@hotmail.com>
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>"stoney" <stoney.DeleteThis@the.net> wrote
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>> On 26 Apr 2005 19:24:09 -0700, bja.DeleteThis@ix.netcom.com wrote:
>> >Have creationist ever figured out who designed the designer?
>
>> You've gotta be kidding. Cretinists can't even wipe their arses
>> without assistance.
>
>That's not true! They use their tongues and.... OH!
>
>You mean "Their own" asses!
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>Never mind.
>
>Now I feel silly.
No worries.
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Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
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Religion is the original war crime.
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 11:45 am
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On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:31:00 -0600, "DaveJr" <davesbrain.RemoveThis@qwest.net>
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>> You've gotta be kidding. Cretinists can't even wipe their arses
>> without assistance.
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>They use the little choir boys. ouch.
It's a clergical perk and is approved by Jesus.
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Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 11:50 am
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On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 23:35:38 -0500, Gray Shockley
<grayshockley.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:24:09 -0500, bja.DeleteThis@ix.netcom.com wrote
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>> Have creationist ever figured out who designed the designer?
>>
>
>Well, "Lucifer" means "Light-Bringer" or "Morning Star".
>
>
>I've never met a sober creationist/Intelligent Cancer
>Designer who could cope with H D S Haldane.
I'm drawing a blank on Haldane although I shouldn't.
A web search comes up with a bunch of divinity rubbish.
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Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 2:54 pm
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On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 14:28:13 -0500, Brian Henderson wrote
> On 26 Apr 2005 05:11:17 -0700, "Conspiracy of Doves"
> <mark_dp73.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> Do creationists ever respond to posts like this?
>
> Not really, at least not intelligently. They don't care, all they
> want to do is push their religion. Screw the consequences.
>
You're ignoring how truly frightened these poor people are.
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 2:59 pm
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On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:50:36 -0500, stoney wrote
> On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 23:35:38 -0500, Gray Shockley
> <grayshockley.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:24:09 -0500, bja.DeleteThis@ix.netcom.com wrote
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>>> Have creationist ever figured out who designed the designer?
>>>
>>
>> Well, "Lucifer" means "Light-Bringer" or "Morning Star".
>>
>>
>> I've never met a sober creationist/Intelligent Cancer
>> Designer who could cope with H D S Haldane.
>
> I'm drawing a blank on Haldane although I shouldn't.
> A web search comes up with a bunch of divinity rubbish.
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>
>
That's because I shouldv'e written "JBS Haldane."
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 5:52 pm
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Gray Shockley wrote:
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> There's evolution and then there are the Darwin Awards.
>
> Without people earning Darwin Awards,
> there would be no evolution.
>
Well, not evolution of *people* anyway.
--
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University of Queensland - Blog: evolvethought.blogspot.com
"Darwin's theory has no more to do with philosophy than any other
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(Msg. 26) Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 5:52 pm
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On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 23:52:15 -0500, John Wilkins wrote
> Gray Shockley wrote:
> ...
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>> There's evolution and then there are the Darwin Awards.
>>
>> Without people earning Darwin Awards,
>> there would be no evolution.
>>
> Well, not evolution of *people* anyway.
>
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Ah; good point.
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(Msg. 27) Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 12:10 pm
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stoney wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 23:35:38 -0500, Gray Shockley
> <grayshockley.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:24:09 -0500, bja.DeleteThis@ix.netcom.com wrote
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>>
>>>Have creationist ever figured out who designed the designer?
>>>
>>
>>Well, "Lucifer" means "Light-Bringer" or "Morning Star".
>>
>>
>>I've never met a sober creationist/Intelligent Cancer
>>Designer who could cope with H D S Haldane.
>
>
> I'm drawing a blank on Haldane although I shouldn't.
> A web search comes up with a bunch of divinity rubbish.
>
>
J B S Haldane? But I don't know what of his extensive writings is being
referred to here.
--
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University of Queensland - Blog: evolvethought.blogspot.com
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(Msg. 28) Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 12:10 pm
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On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:10:14 -0500, John Wilkins wrote
> stoney wrote:
>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 23:35:38 -0500, Gray Shockley
>> <grayshockley.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:24:09 -0500, bja.DeleteThis@ix.netcom.com wrote
>>>
>>>
>>>> Have creationist ever figured out who designed the designer?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well, "Lucifer" means "Light-Bringer" or "Morning Star".
>>>
>>>
>>> I've never met a sober creationist/Intelligent Cancer
>>> Designer who could cope with H D S Haldane.
>>
>>
>> I'm drawing a blank on Haldane although I shouldn't.
>> A web search comes up with a bunch of divinity rubbish.
>>
>>
> J B S Haldane? But I don't know what of his extensive writings is being
> referred to here.
>
>
It was in my .sig line.
"The world is not only queerer than we know;
it is queerer than we can know."
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(Msg. 29) Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 8:20 pm
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Gray Shockley wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:10:14 -0500, John Wilkins wrote
>
>
>>stoney wrote:
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>>>On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 23:35:38 -0500, Gray Shockley
>>><grayshockley.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:24:09 -0500, bja.RemoveThis@ix.netcom.com wrote
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Have creationist ever figured out who designed the designer?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Well, "Lucifer" means "Light-Bringer" or "Morning Star".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I've never met a sober creationist/Intelligent Cancer
>>>>Designer who could cope with H D S Haldane.
>>>
>>>
>>>I'm drawing a blank on Haldane although I shouldn't.
>>>A web search comes up with a bunch of divinity rubbish.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>J B S Haldane? But I don't know what of his extensive writings is being
>>referred to here.
>>
>>
>
>
> It was in my .sig line.
>
> "The world is not only queerer than we know;
> it is queerer than we can know."
Google being my friend again, I get this:
"I have no doubt that in reality the future will be vastly more
surprising than anything I can imagine. Now my own suspicion is that the
universe is not only queerer than we suppose, but queerer than we can
suppose."
~ John Burdon Sanderson Haldane (1892-1964)
English geneticist
from Possible Worlds and Other Papers
at http://www.zaadz.com/quotes/authors/john_burdon_sanderson_haldane/
--
John S. Wilkins, Postdoctoral Research Fellow, Biohumanities Project
University of Queensland - Blog: evolvethought.blogspot.com
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(Msg. 30) Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 8:20 pm
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On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 02:20:21 -0500, John Wilkins wrote
> Gray Shockley wrote:
>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:10:14 -0500, John Wilkins wrote
>>
>>
>>> stoney wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 23:35:38 -0500, Gray Shockley
>>>> <grayshockley.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:24:09 -0500, bja.DeleteThis@ix.netcom.com wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Have creationist ever figured out who designed the designer?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, "Lucifer" means "Light-Bringer" or "Morning Star".
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I've never met a sober creationist/Intelligent Cancer
>>>>> Designer who could cope with H D S Haldane.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm drawing a blank on Haldane although I shouldn't.
>>>> A web search comes up with a bunch of divinity rubbish.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> J B S Haldane? But I don't know what of his extensive writings is being
>>> referred to here.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> It was in my .sig line.
>>
>> "The world is not only queerer than we know;
>> it is queerer than we can know."
>
> Google being my friend again, I get this:
>
> "I have no doubt that in reality the future will be vastly more
> surprising than anything I can imagine. Now my own suspicion is that the
> universe is not only queerer than we suppose, but queerer than we can
> suppose."
>
>> John Burdon Sanderson Haldane (1892-1964)
> English geneticist
> from Possible Worlds and Other Papers
>
> at http://www.zaadz.com/quotes/authors/john_burdon_sanderson_haldane/
>
>
A few months back, we had a major discussion on this. It's
attributed to several people - inc AHuxley, but the Haldane
connection is pretty positive.
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