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buckeye-elo

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 10:21 am
Post subject: Religious Right's Claims of A 'War on Christmas' Thinner Than Cheap Wrapping Paper
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http://bbsnews.net/article.php/20051221104245957


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Thursday, December 22 2005 @ 06:39 AM EST
Religious Right's Claims of A 'War on Christmas' Thinner Than Cheap
Wrapping Paper, Says Americans United

Wednesday, December 21 2005 @ 10:42 AM EST

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AU: Examples of Hostility Toward Christmas Melt Under Scrutiny

AU via BBSNews 2005-12-21 -- Religious Right groups and their allies in the
right-wing media insist that a “war on Christmas” is under way in America
but a new analysis of alleged examples of bias against Christmas shows more
hype than hard facts, says Americans United for Separation of Church and
State.

Americans United staff members researched the “war on Christmas” incidents
cited most frequently by Religious Right leaders and found them to be based
in myth, not fact. For details, read the AU report , “The Religious Right’s
Phony ‘War on Christmas’: Mything In Action.”
http://www.au.org/site/PageServer?pagename=resources_xmas_tales&JServS...ionIdr0


“This isn’t a war on Christmas it’s not even a skirmish,” said the Rev.
Barry W. Lynn, executive director of Americans United. “When the facts are
exposed, the Religious Right’s ‘war on Christmas’ melts faster than a
snowman on an 80-degree day.”
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Posting and reading from alt.politics.usa.constitution OR alt.education

You are invited to check out the following:

The Rise of the Theocratic States of America
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm

American Theocrats - Past and Present
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocrats.htm

The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html

[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
Church and State in general, listed below]

HRSepCnS · Hampton Roads [Virginia] SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/

[Its not just Hampton Roads folks who are members, there are members from
all over the U.S. and a couple from overseas as well]

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.. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
.. . .
****************************************************************
THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE

http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
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AK47

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 11:50 am
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"The Fool" <kands00.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:1135260094.208091.98730@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:

> http://www.au.org/site/PageServer?pagename=resources_xmas_tales&JServSe
> ssionIdr005=0479x06w91.app1b

Christian is a religious term; liberal a political one.This should be
obvious to anyone who thinks about it, but the political right has
deliberately confused pious and gullible people to follow the religious
right and do their bidding.

It is obvious to me and has been for a long time that the so called leaders
of the religious right are nothing more than dupes of the political right,
recruited for the purpose of getting their adherents to vote against their
economic self-interest.

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Elroy Willis

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 4:55 pm
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buckeye-elo DeleteThis @nospam.net wrote in alt.atheism

> Americans United staff members researched the "war on Christmas" incidents
> cited most frequently by Religious Right leaders and found them to be based
> in myth, not fact.

Just like their Bible.

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Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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buckeye-ELO

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 1:22 pm
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"The Fool" <kands00.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:

>:|Ha Ha Ha
>:|You've been caught in your presumption. The term "war on Christmas"
>:|comes from a book by a Fox News reporter that has, to my knowledge,
>:|never expressed any personal faith statement and is not connected with
>:|any church. So much for the religious right being behind this.
>Neutral
>:|The War on Christmas: How the Liberal Plot to Ban the Sacred Christian
>:|Holiday Is Worse Than You Thought
>:|by John Gibson
>:|http://www.penguinputnam.com/nf/Book/BookDisplay/0,,0_1595230165,00.html
>Neutral


Dear me.
Ha ha yourself

Where does Gibson work?
Who owns where he works?
What is the known position of that place?

Who else had picked up that banner and who is affiliated with the
theocrats. the radical religious right, etc?that has theocratic


You do like to keep sticking your foot in your mouth don't you?


>:|buckeye-elo@nospam.net wrote:
>Neutral> http://bbsnews.net/article.php/20051221104245957
>Neutral>
>Neutral>
>Neutral> Welcome to BBSNews
>Neutral
>Neutral> Thursday, December 22 2005 @ 06:39 AM EST
>Neutral> Religious Right's Claims of A 'War on Christmas' Thinner Than Cheap
>Neutral> Wrapping Paper, Says Americans United
>Neutral>
>Neutral> Wednesday, December 21 2005 @ 10:42 AM EST
>Neutral>
>Neutral> Views: 33
>Neutral>
>Neutral> AU: Examples of Hostility Toward Christmas Melt Under Scrutiny
>Neutral>
>Neutral> AU via BBSNews 2005-12-21 -- Religious Right groups and their allies in the
>Neutral> right-wing media insist that a "war on Christmas" is under way in America
>Neutral> but a new analysis of alleged examples of bias against Christmas shows more
>Neutral> hype than hard facts, says Americans United for Separation of Church and
>Neutral> State.
>Neutral>
>Neutral> Americans United staff members researched the "war on Christmas" incidents
>Neutral> cited most frequently by Religious Right leaders and found them to be based
>Neutral> in myth, not fact. For details, read the AU report , "The Religious Right's
>Neutral> Phony 'War on Christmas': Mything In Action."
>Neutral> http://www.au.org/site/PageServer?pagename=resources_xmas_tales&JServS...ionIdr0
>Neutral>
>Neutral>
>Neutral> "This isn't a war on Christmas it's not even a skirmish," said the Rev.
>Neutral> Barry W. Lynn, executive director of Americans United. "When the facts are
>Neutral> exposed, the Religious Right's 'war on Christmas' melts faster than a
>Neutral> snowman on an 80-degree day."
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Paul Duca

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 12:23 am
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Okay, Ken... how much money you had to give your family this
Christmas so they could give you presents?



Paul
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buckeyeelo

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 10:54 am
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"The Fool" <kands00.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Neutral
>:|buckeye-ELO@nospam.net wrote:
>Neutral> "The Fool" <kands00.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Neutral>
>Neutral> >:|Ha Ha Ha
>Neutral> >:|You've been caught in your presumption. The term "war on Christmas"
>Neutral> >:|comes from a book by a Fox News reporter that has, to my knowledge,
>Neutral> >:|never expressed any personal faith statement and is not connected with
>Neutral> >:|any church. So much for the religious right being behind this.
>Neutral> >Neutral
>Neutral> >:|The War on Christmas: How the Liberal Plot to Ban the Sacred Christian
>Neutral> >:|Holiday Is Worse Than You Thought
>Neutral> >:|by John Gibson
>Neutral> >:|http://www.penguinputnam.com/nf/Book/BookDisplay/0,,0_1595230165,00.html
>Neutral> >Neutral
>Neutral>
>Neutral>
>Neutral> Dear me.
>Neutral> Ha ha yourself
>Neutral>
>Neutral> Where does Gibson work?
>Neutral> Who owns where he works?
>Neutral> What is the known position of that place?
>Neutral>
>Neutral> Who else had picked up that banner and who is affiliated with the
>Neutral> theocrats. the radical religious right, etc?that has theocratic
>Neutral>
>Neutral>
>Neutral> You do like to keep sticking your foot in your mouth don't you?
>Neutral>
>Neutral>
>Neutral
>:|What religious group owns Fox News? It is owned by Murdock, who
>:|himself has never expressed any religious comments. What religious
>:|group is a majority stock holder in that company. Scanning the top
>:|shareholders, I find no religious group at all. Your presumption and
>:|prejudice are showing.
>Neutral


The only thing you have displayed dippy is your own closed mindedness and
ignorance once again.

Not all that is found in each or the following URls apply but there are
plenty that do

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=rupert++murdock+pat+robertson...tnG=Sea

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=rupert++Murdock+christian+right++&spell=1

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http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=rupert++Murdock++who%27%3Bs+w...of+the+

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=rupert++Murdock++who%27s+who+of+t...radical

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http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=rupert++Murdock++reconstructi...sts&btn

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http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=fox+news++ultra+conservative+...igious+

The above is only a small fraction of what is out there and took maybe five
minutes to locate. Wonder why you weren't able to locate any of it

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Posting and reading from alt.politics.usa.constitution OR alt.education

You are invited to check out the following:

The Rise of the Theocratic States of America
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm

American Theocrats - Past and Present
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocrats.htm

The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html

[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
Church and State in general, listed below]

HRSepCnS · Hampton Roads [Virginia] SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/

[Its not just Hampton Roads folks who are members, there are members from
all over the U.S. and a couple from overseas as well]

***************************************************************
.. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
.. . .
****************************************************************
THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE

http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
****************************************************************
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