Reverse Evolution

On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 23:21:40 +0000, Jd wrote:

> You have heard how an amoeba evolved into a critter which crawled up
> out of the primorial slime and eventually became an ape, which
> eventually became a human....

Yes, we've heard that strawman before...

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Wait... oil reserves?
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Azaliah wrote:
> On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 23:21:40 GMT, while bungee jumping, Jd
> <ZionsFire RemoveThis @att.net> shouted thusly:
>
>
> >You have heard how an amoeba evolved into a critter which crawled up
> >out of the primorial slime and eventually became an ape, which
> >eventually became a human.... but now here is proof that a "common
> >ancestor" had descendants which crawled back into the ocean and
> >reversed, or at least hindered the evolutionary process:
> >
> >"Fossil remains show dolphins and whales were four-footed land animals
> >about 50 million years ago and share the same common ancestor as
> >hippos and deer. Scientists believe they later transitioned to an
> >aquatic lifestyle and their hind limbs disappeared."
>
> "Scientists believe" is not proof. It is a fairy tale that
> they imagined up and sell as if it is proven.

Are you paid to be this stupid, or are you just a talented amateur?

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In article <c6duk2tcff40ttc8bmgvu9b978e4kqdmbs.TakeThisOut@4ax.com>,
Jd <ZionsFire.TakeThisOut@att.net> wrote:

> You have heard how an amoeba evolved into a critter which crawled up
> out of the primorial slime and eventually became an ape, which
> eventually became a human

If you are going to post on this topic, shouldn't you learn something
about evolution first?
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On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 23:21:40 GMT, in alt.atheism , Jd
<ZionsFire.RemoveThis@att.net> in <c6duk2tcff40ttc8bmgvu9b978e4kqdmbs.RemoveThis@4ax.com>
wrote:

>You have heard how an amoeba evolved into a critter which crawled up
>out of the primorial slime and eventually became an ape, which
>eventually became a human.

Yes, but it is mostly creationists who tell that tale.

>... but now here is proof that a "common
>ancestor" had descendants which crawled back into the ocean and
>reversed, or at least hindered the evolutionary process:

Nope. Evolution means change, not progress.

>"Fossil remains show dolphins and whales were four-footed land animals
>about 50 million years ago and share the same common ancestor as
>hippos and deer. Scientists believe they later transitioned to an
>aquatic lifestyle and their hind limbs disappeared."
>
>http://dailynews.att.net/cgi-bin/news?e=pub&dt=061106&cat=science&st=scienced8l756601&src=ap
>
>Think about it. Had dolphins not gone back into the sea they just
>might've invented the internet millions of years before Al Gore did,
>and you just might be able to drive your SUV without having to worry
>about "global warming" by now.

Huh? BTW, Gore never claimed he invented the Internet. You are not
responsible for making that up, but you are responsible for spreading
the lie. That is the same kind of political lie that got us into Iraq.




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"Matt Silberstein" <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam DeleteThis @ix.netcom.com> wrote in
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> Huh? BTW, Gore never claimed he invented the Internet. You are not
> responsible for making that up, but you are responsible for spreading
> the lie. That is the same kind of political lie that got us into Iraq.

So what is the source for that lie? I always assumed it was, but never
really got a clear idea where it came from.
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"Geoff" <geoff DeleteThis @nospam.com> wrote in message
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> "Matt Silberstein" <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam DeleteThis @ix.netcom.com> wrote in
> message news:jtivk2lf5v1h1l58ji73scivftcsne1sh5@4ax.com...
>
>> Huh? BTW, Gore never claimed he invented the Internet. You are not
>> responsible for making that up, but you are responsible for spreading
>> the lie. That is the same kind of political lie that got us into Iraq.
>
> So what is the source for that lie? I always assumed it was, but never
> really got a clear idea where it came from.

Never mind...got it. That was easy.

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp
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On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 23:21:40 GMT, while bungee jumping, Jd
<ZionsFire RemoveThis @att.net> shouted thusly:


>You have heard how an amoeba evolved into a critter which crawled up
>out of the primorial slime and eventually became an ape, which
>eventually became a human.... but now here is proof that a "common
>ancestor" had descendants which crawled back into the ocean and
>reversed, or at least hindered the evolutionary process:
>
>"Fossil remains show dolphins and whales were four-footed land animals
>about 50 million years ago and share the same common ancestor as
>hippos and deer. Scientists believe they later transitioned to an
>aquatic lifestyle and their hind limbs disappeared."

"Scientists believe" is not proof. It is a fairy tale that
they imagined up and sell as if it is proven.

And what was the first line at the link?

"Dolphin *MAY HAVE* 'Remains' of Legs"

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On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 23:58:32 GMT, while bungee jumping, Matt
Silberstein <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam.RemoveThis@ix.netcom.com>
shouted thusly:


>On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 23:21:40 GMT, in alt.atheism , Jd
><ZionsFire.RemoveThis@att.net> in <c6duk2tcff40ttc8bmgvu9b978e4kqdmbs.RemoveThis@4ax.com>
>wrote:
>
>>You have heard how an amoeba evolved into a critter which crawled up
>>out of the primorial slime and eventually became an ape, which
>>eventually became a human.
>
>Yes, but it is mostly creationists who tell that tale.

Dream on, moron.


>Evolution means change, not progress.

Yea right. You believe in "goo to you" and you're
not claiming progress? Please! (:

Bye now.

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On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 02:08:18 GMT, in alt.atheism , Azaliah
<_giantwaffle_.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> in
<niqvk2h60d9q46lq9bosrct8789c7e2nko.RemoveThis@4ax.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 23:58:32 GMT, while bungee jumping, Matt
>Silberstein <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam.RemoveThis@ix.netcom.com>
>shouted thusly:
>
>
>>On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 23:21:40 GMT, in alt.atheism , Jd
>><ZionsFire.RemoveThis@att.net> in <c6duk2tcff40ttc8bmgvu9b978e4kqdmbs.RemoveThis@4ax.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>You have heard how an amoeba evolved into a critter which crawled up
>>>out of the primorial slime and eventually became an ape, which
>>>eventually became a human.
>>
>>Yes, but it is mostly creationists who tell that tale.
>
>Dream on, moron.

Your ignorance does not make me a moron. The notion that all single
celled organisms are "amoeba" is biologically ignorant. As in the
notion that "a critter", rather than populations, evolve. As is the
notion that it all aimed at humans.
>
>>Evolution means change, not progress.
>
>Yea right. You believe in "goo to you" and you're
>not claiming progress? Please! (:

Progress is a subjective notion. Plus you snipped out (without
marking) the context. That cetaceans went back to the see is not
devolution or "hindered" progress. If you don't understand why I will
try to explain it to you.

>Bye now.

Have fun tomorrow.

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Jd <ZionsFire.DeleteThis@att.net> wrote in
news:c6duk2tcff40ttc8bmgvu9b978e4kqdmbs@4ax.com:

> You have heard how an amoeba evolved into a critter which crawled up
> out of the primorial slime and eventually became an ape, which
> eventually became a human.... but now here is proof that a "common
> ancestor" had descendants which crawled back into the ocean and
> reversed, or at least hindered the evolutionary process:

Your understanding of evolution is flawed. Evolution is change, not
progress. The change is constrained by the environment. Species evolve to
survive in their environment. There is actually a case of human somatic
cells evolving into a single celled protist. Of course it is a rather
artificial case but the cell lines derived from the cancer cells of a
certain patient (Henrietta Lacks) who died in the 1950's are still
thriving. It hasn't been officially accepted but some regard these cells as
a new species "Helacyton gartleri".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HeLa

>
> "Fossil remains show dolphins and whales were four-footed land animals
> about 50 million years ago and share the same common ancestor as
> hippos and deer. Scientists believe they later transitioned to an
> aquatic lifestyle and their hind limbs disappeared."

http://www.talkorigins.org/features/whales/

>
> http://dailynews.att.net/cgi-bin/news?e=pub&dt=061106&cat=science&st=scie
> nced8l756601&src=ap
>
> Think about it. Had dolphins not gone back into the sea they just
> might've invented the internet millions of years before Al Gore did,
> and you just might be able to drive your SUV without having to worry
> about "global warming" by now.

Why would you think that. None of the cetacean's close terrestrial
relatives evolved in the direction of being able to invent technology.

Klazmon.

>
> Jd
>
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Azaliah <_giantwaffle_.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:7fqvk21h2t7ml7mtv1kgra2ofca5c7i2jc@4ax.com:

> On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 23:21:40 GMT, while bungee jumping, Jd
> <ZionsFire.TakeThisOut@att.net> shouted thusly:
>
>
>>You have heard how an amoeba evolved into a critter which crawled up
>>out of the primorial slime and eventually became an ape, which
>>eventually became a human.... but now here is proof that a "common
>>ancestor" had descendants which crawled back into the ocean and
>>reversed, or at least hindered the evolutionary process:
>>
>>"Fossil remains show dolphins and whales were four-footed land animals
>>about 50 million years ago and share the same common ancestor as
>>hippos and deer. Scientists believe they later transitioned to an
>>aquatic lifestyle and their hind limbs disappeared."
>
> "Scientists believe" is not proof. It is a fairy tale that
> they imagined up and sell as if it is proven.
>
> And what was the first line at the link?

Read and weep cretinist:

http://www.talkorigins.org/features/whales/


>
> "Dolphin *MAY HAVE* 'Remains' of Legs"
>

Cetaceans still have the HOX genes for producing limbs. They are normally
turned off. Occaisionally the regulation of the HOX genes go amiss and
limbs grow anyway. This is called an atavism. Same thing with humans
occaisionally being born with tails, which are surgically removed.

Klazmon.
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Azaliah <_giantwaffle_.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:niqvk2h60d9q46lq9bosrct8789c7e2nko@4ax.com:

> On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 23:58:32 GMT, while bungee jumping, Matt
> Silberstein <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam.RemoveThis@ix.netcom.com>
> shouted thusly:
>
>
>>On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 23:21:40 GMT, in alt.atheism , Jd
>><ZionsFire.RemoveThis@att.net> in <c6duk2tcff40ttc8bmgvu9b978e4kqdmbs.RemoveThis@4ax.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>You have heard how an amoeba evolved into a critter which crawled up
>>>out of the primorial slime and eventually became an ape, which
>>>eventually became a human.
>>
>>Yes, but it is mostly creationists who tell that tale.
>
> Dream on, moron.

The cretinists are often stating that evolution says that amoeba evolved
into humans. This is a a false understanding as moderm amoeba are just as
evolved as any other modern species.

>
>
>>Evolution means change, not progress.
>
> Yea right. You believe in "goo to you" and you're
> not claiming progress? Please! (:

The buybull says "dirt to you". BTW note this picture of a spotted dolphin
embryo (even hind legs initially develop before the HOX genes get turned
off. You would be hard pressed to tell it from any other mammal embryo at
this stage:

http://www.edwardtbabinski.us/babinski/whale_evolution.html

Klazmon.


>
> Bye now.
>
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On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 02:07:53 +0000, Jd wrote:

> johac wrote:
>
>>In article <c6duk2tcff40ttc8bmgvu9b978e4kqdmbs.RemoveThis@4ax.com>,
>> Jd <ZionsFire.RemoveThis@att.net> wrote:
>>
>>> You have heard how an amoeba evolved into a critter which crawled up
>>> out of the primorial slime and eventually became an ape, which
>>> eventually became a human
>>
>>If you are going to post on this topic, shouldn't you learn something
>>about evolution first?
>
> It was a stroke of genius and that is why you misunderstood.

It was a stroke of _something_, all right. Not "genius," though.

Now how did you crawl out of my killfile, shithead? Back you go!
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