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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 9:15 am
Post subject: Separation of Church and State
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Separation of Church and State
http://oregonmag.com/ChurchState302.htm
Oregon Magazine - OR,USA
Separation of Church and State

All the recent mainstream media coverage about the school voucher case in
the Supreme Court constantly brought up the "principle" of separation of
church and state, presenting those words as an established constitutional
principle.

They do not appear in the constitution.

What does appear in the constitution is the prohibition of laws that
establish religion. There is a very big difference between the two ideas.

The first concept, a fiction created by liberals, inclluding some who were
Supreme Court jurists, establishes a complete prohibition of religious
expression of any kind in any activity or location associated with the
government. It is actually a violation of the same amendment it claims to
represent, since it denies the right of those in government to freely
express their faith. Any government offical who wears a visible Christian
cross on the job is violating the mythical separation of church and state.

The second concept was the one the founding fathers gave us. It was put in
the constitution to keep America from having an official
government-ordained religion like England had at the time -- and Islamic
theocracies have at this time.

Vouchers are completely legal under the U.S. Constitution because they can
be used to send kids to any religious school. That's why your kids can get
college loans to go to Catholic, Jewish, Protestant, Mormon or any other
kind of religious university. Al Gore went to just such a religious
university. It's called Yale. It's a Protestant college. If he had
wanted to attend Notre Dame, a Catholic college, and needed financial help,
he would have gotten it. Federally-sponsored college loans, like vouchers,
would only be illegal if they could only be used to send kids to one kind
of religous school.

When you hear the media morons use the phrase, "separation of church and
state," they are, as usual, misinforming you. They don't mean to do that.
It's just that they cannor read simple English sentences. Let's see if you
can.

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech,
or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to
petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Vouchers don't benefit a religion. They benefit all religions, plus
schools that aren't religious, at all. Just like federal grants and
guaranteed loans for college. Any questions? If there are, you were born
to be a mainstream media journalist. (LL)


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You are invited to check out the following:

The Rise of the Theocratic States of America
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm

American Theocrats - Past and Present
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocrats.htm

The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html

[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
Church and State in general, listed below]

HRSepCnS · Hampton Roads [Virginia] SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/

[Its not just Hampton Roads folks who are members, there are members from
all over the US and a couple from overseas as well]

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.. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
.. . .
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USAF LT. COL (Ret) Buffman (Glen P. Goffin) wrote

"You pilot always into an unknown future;
facts are your only clue. Get the facts!"

That philosophy 'snipit' helped to get me, and my crew, through a good
many combat missions and far too many scary, inflight, emergencies.

It has also played a significant role in helping me to expose the
plethora of radical Christian propaganda and lies that we find at
almost every media turn.

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THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE

http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
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