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Harmony

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Since: Apr 13, 2007
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:14 pm
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Hi,
My name is Harmony and my daughter is a senior in Southern California. She
applied to 13 schools and was accepted to 8. Her first choice, HMC,
declined her because her SATs (1320 old/1940 new) were too low. She is #1
in her class of 509, with a 4.38 cumulative GPA, with all the accompanying
AP courses. She wants to study Science, Technology & Society, which is
really just a fancy Science & Management degree. She was accepted to UC
Berkeley, UCSC, UCSD, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute (for which she
received a 50% scholarship), University of Evansville (for which she
received a 75% trustee scholarship), Cal State Long Beach (President
scholarship, 100%), Cal State Fullerton, & Scripps College Claremont (no aid
offered).

She is concerned about:
1) research opportunities
2) large classes
3) TA's
4) study abroad
5) competition / sabotage
6) student resources for living away from home (support systems for
depression, burnout, transition, etc)
7) safety
Cool the ticket (which school will get her the best job after graduation)

Right now, she's between UC Berkeley and University of Evansville. There is
so much information available about choosing which colleges to apply to, but
very little about making the final choice. Any suggestions would be
appreciated.

Thanks,
Harmony


--
How would you like to be locked in a room for a couple of days with an
irritable, depressed malcontent who also happens to be imperiously smart,
bored and more than a little spoiled? (no, that's not my daughter, I just
think it's funny Smile

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Since: Apr 15, 2007
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 6:23 pm
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On Apr 14, 1:14 am, "Harmony" wrote:
> Hi,
> My name is Harmony and my daughter is a senior in Southern California. She
> applied to 13 schools and was accepted to 8. Her first choice, HMC,
> declined her because her SATs (1320 old/1940 new) were too low. She is #1
> in her class of 509, with a 4.38 cumulative GPA, with all the accompanying
> AP courses. She wants to study Science, Technology & Society, which is
> really just a fancy Science & Management degree. She was accepted to UC
> Berkeley, UCSC, UCSD, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute (for which she
> received a 50% scholarship), University of Evansville (for which she
> received a 75% trustee scholarship), Cal State Long Beach (President
> scholarship, 100%), Cal State Fullerton, & Scripps College Claremont (no aid
> offered).
>
> She is concerned about:
> 1) research opportunities
> 2) large classes
> 3) TA's
> 4) study abroad
> 5) competition / sabotage
> 6) student resources for living away from home (support systems for
> depression, burnout, transition, etc)
> 7) safety
> Cool the ticket (which school will get her the best job after graduation)
>
> Right now, she's between UC Berkeley and University of Evansville. There is
> so much information available about choosing which colleges to apply to, but
> very little about making the final choice. Any suggestions would be
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Harmony
>
> --
> How would you like to be locked in a room for a couple of days with an
> irritable, depressed malcontent who also happens to be imperiously smart,
> bored and more than a little spoiled? (no, that's not my daughter, I just
> think it's funny Smile

Hi, I'm a prospective college student going into computer engineering.
I applied to institutions in the Northeast and was accepted to
Rensselaer, Columbia, and Villanova. In my opinion, if I were applying
to a great school with a technology background in California, I would
apply to Caltech, Harvey Mudd, Stanford, and UC Berkely. UC Berkely is
a public institution with a diverse cast of students and students with
different talents and abilities. UC Berkely will definitely prove to
be a challenge in the academic milieu; however, it doesn't prove to be
as intense as many other technology oriented schools. I've never heard
of the University of Evansville; however, the idea of having 75% of
the tuition covered up, sounds good. The one thing I must note is that
85% of the students in any technology oriented program at Berkely, are
overachievers; therefore, the competition level will definitely be
higher than most other institutions. I was watching a lecture by one
of the Berkely professors and I must say that the lecture was top
quality and down to earth. In my opinion, the professors at Berkely
have a great sense of humor and they integrate that trait along with
their superior knowledge of whatever subject. The students at Berkely
are not pressured to the extent that they panic and conceal themselves
in their rooms studying 8 hours a day. On the contrary, the students
actually have a life and get along very well with each other and are
not pressured by any means. This could prove beneficial especially
since your daughter is going into technology and management. In my
opinion, networking is key in order to achieve the highest possible
satisfaction out of a career based around technology and management.
Berkely definitely seems to provide all the necessary resources for
your daughter to achieve her goals. Why don't you consider Rensselaer
as well?

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Harmony

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:19 pm
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<snip> "Why don't you consider Rensselaer
> as well?"

She visited and didn't like the student's instant messaging during lecture,
her hostess had the poor manners to have an overnight male guest, and all
the students she ran into in the dorms were drinking and underage. She
didn't feel the students appreciated their education.
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Norm Matloff

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Since: Apr 18, 2007
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 8:13 pm
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On 2007-04-16, Harmony wrote:
><snip> "Why don't you consider Rensselaer
>> as well?"
>
> She visited and didn't like the student's instant messaging during lecture,
> her hostess had the poor manners to have an overnight male guest, and all
> the students she ran into in the dorms were drinking and underage. She
> didn't feel the students appreciated their education.

I hope your registered a complaint with the RPI admissions office. If
not, I urge you to do so.

Sad to say, though, these things are commonplace. I'll skip the part
about the male guest and the drinking, and just address the IMing during
lecture. I regard that as rude, yet I see it not only in my students
(only one or two, but still irritating) and even worse among my fellow
professors during faculty meetings. They probably aren't IMing, but
they are certainly sending e-mail and surfing the Web.

If you find a school of good quality where those problems you cited
above don't occur, please let me know, so I can send my own daughter
there in two years.

Norm Matloff
Professor of Computer Science
UC Davis
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